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Holy Roman Empire ~ Grunge Flag (1433 - 1806) by Undevicesimus Holy Roman Empire ~ Grunge Flag (1433 - 1806) by Undevicesimus
The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Imperium Romanum, German: Heiliges Römisches Reich, Dutch: Heilige Roomse Rijk, Italian: Sacro Romano Impero, Czech: Svatá říše římská, Slovene: Sveto rimsko cesarstvo, French: Saint-Empire romain germanique) was a vast conglomerate of states across Central Europe which was proclaimed at the imperial coronation of Otto I in 962. It lasted for almost a millennium, until its dissolution by Emperor Francis II in August 1806, following the defeat of Habsburg Austria by Napoleon Bonaparte. The empire was known simply as the ‘Roman Empire’ until the reign of Frederick I Barbarossa (r. 1155 – 1190), who called it ‘Holy’ to signify his self-proclaimed authority over the Papacy. A 1512 decree of the Imperial Diet formally declared ‘Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation’ to be the official name.

The Holy Roman Empire had no official national flag but rather an imperial banner associated with the person of the Holy Roman Emperor. From around 1430, the banner’s basic design was a gold field with a black double-headed eagle in the centre, sometimes adorned with haloes and the escutcheon of the reigning Emperor.

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Rodegas Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015

Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved by Godas shines forth in very many of your works set apart from all nations by the situation of your country, as well as by your catholic faith and the honor of the holy church! To you our discourse is addressed and for you our exhortation is intended. We wish you to know what a grievous cause has led us to Your country, what peril threatening you and all the faithful has brought us.

From the confines of Jerusalem and the city of Constantinople a horrible tale has gone forth and very frequently has been brought to our ears, namely, that a race from the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God, a generation forsooth which has not directed its heart and has not entrusted its spirit to God, has invaded the lands of those Christians and has depopulated them by the sword, pillage and fire; it has led away a part of the captives into its own country, and a part it has destroyed by cruel tortures; it has either entirely destroyed the churches of God or appropriated them for the rites of its own religion. They destroy the altars, after having defiled them with their uncleanness. They circumcise the Christians, and the blood of the circumcision they either spread upon the altars or pour into the vases of the baptismal font. When they wish to torture people by a base death, they perforate their navels, and dragging forth the extremity of the intestines, bind it to a stake; then with flogging they lead the victim around until the viscera having gushed forth the victim falls prostrate upon the ground. Others they bind to a post and pierce with arrows. Others they compel to extend their necks and then, attacking them with naked swords, attempt to cut through the neck with a single blow. What shall I say of the abominable rape of the women? To speak of it is worse than to be silent. The kingdom of the Greeks is now dismembered by them and deprived of territory so vast in extent that it can not be traversed in a march of two months. On whom therefore is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you? You, upon whom above other nations God has conferred remarkable glory in arms, great courage, bodily activity, and strength to humble the hairy scalp of those who resist you.

Pope La 2 

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GGY128 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
the decline in my opinion began with the dead of the staufen and the interregno before that HRE was the super power of europa for the last 340 years (960-1300)
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
Or the german-roman state in Swedish not sure when we stopped using the holy part
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014   Artist
How do you say that in Swedish?

Sweden played a big part in the downfall of the HRE, as you probably know :)
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
tysk-romerska riket

We were very lucky to have the lion from the north and Oxenstierna
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014   Artist
You're referring to Gustavus II Adolphus as "lion of the north", right? Definitely a brilliant man :) But Sweden basically played the game of the French in the 30 Years War, I think.
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
Indeed I do he has quiet a few titles (not sure why the italians called him the golden king though)

In many ways yes they payed us to wage war and so we did but there was no delusion as to the relationship we new what they wanted and we knew what we wanted: control over the baltic and lots of money (or if you belive the offical excuse to secure the baltic to prevent a catholic invasion) and we did get our on seat at the negotions table so we were always acting out of our own interest (gaining land in the baltic) which materialized in the shape of the swedish empire... which fell appart in less than a century... at least in this world it fell

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWAP0R…
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014   Artist
Oh yes, the Swedish definitely had a plan when they entered the 30 Years War. But after the death of Gustavus at Lützen and the defeat at Nördlingen, it was the French that kept Sweden in the war, and by extent, gave them a place at the negotiating table for the peace of Osnabrück in 1648. And although their war ambitions had been reached and they emerged as a dominant European power after 1648, wasn't it so that they needed the alliance with France to keep their empire going after 1648?

I like Sweden, though, don't get me wrong! ^^
Would've been very interesting if they had remained/consolidated as a great power.

And you play EU4? :D It has a great painting of Gustavus in the loading screen, as you probably know ^^
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014
True but it was not unearned an we carried on with the war in a capacity beyond excpectation.

Odds are we woul've take more territories in the baltic maybe even norway and if things went really well prussia

Indeed and ironically I find it increadibly hard to play as sweden in it. 
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014   Artist
I haven't played Sweden in EU4, actually - the only kind-of-serious games I've done were as Portugal and Castile (for exploring & the reconquista, respectively). But for some reason I like EU3:DW & Victoria 2:HoD better. EU4 has the merit that it looks amazing (with awesome details; like that moose in Thuringia ^^), but I'm not sure I like most of the features (the whole admin-diplo-army points system, f. ex.)... And when I say it looks amazing, I mean the terrain map... That's something else I don't like: if you switch to the political map, the terrain becomes an empty, hilly colour-blob... In EU3 & Vicky 2, the political map is a blend of the terrain map and the colours of nations, which I think is way cooler ^^

Anyway, in real life, Sweden may have secured its "empire"-status for much longer if they had done the Great Northern War differently or not at all.
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Raubritter Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
To this flag I feel far more close then to the actual German tricolore
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Das Reich ist heilig.
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014   Artist
If only it still existed... :iconbowplz:
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It was like an early EU, whole Europe should´ve joined it XD
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014   Artist
The Habsburgs should've succeeded in their mission to centralize the HRE into one of the "New Monarchies" (like Henry VIII in England, and Francis I in France did), but alas, it was not to be... And the Thirty Years' War literally burned down any hope for it after 1648.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes the HRE had so bad luck in history...I played the game EU4, and after playing it,
I really understand how awful diplomacy was at that time, and how easily you got problems
with other states...the local princes of the Reich were too strong for unity.
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014   Artist
Ah yes EU4 :XD: I haven't played that yet, but I've played EU3 - Divine Wind countless hours... My two best games were one as Austria (Habsburgs!), and becoming Emperor, then passing the Imperial Reforms and keeping the Imperial title, and ultimately uniting the HRE. At the end of the game in 1821, I had torn France apart into different states (sound familiar? :XD:) and my Holy Roman Empire extented from Flanders to China and India... If I can find a screenshot of it, I should maybe upload it to dA :)

And my second-best game was as the Palatinate, uniting Germany, and then vassalizing all of Europe (Belgium controlled all of France as a German vassal, Byzantium had the entire Eastern Roman Empire as a German vassal, etc) and expanding east into Russia. At the end, Germany extended from the North Sea to the Ural mountains and had vassalized all of Europe except Britain and much of the Middle-east and Northern Africa :) Good times haha
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow that sounds awesome, yes please make a screenshot^^
I also thought about adding a mod, but it would mean I must play in English :/

I must do the same as you XD But the states can be so aggressive lol.
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014   Artist
I'll post that HRE screenshot soon, I hope I still have it :)

A good mod for EU3 is Death&Taxes, but yes it's only in English...

Yea I admit the Palatinate game was difficult, cause you start with only 3 territories (which are separated too) and surrounded by stronger states: France is very close and eager to take stuff in the HRE, Bavaria is very close too and they usually declare war on the Palatinate very early in the game, Austria and Bohemia are also very close and one of them usually offers an alliance and then declares war on the other... So it wasn't easy :) But I united Germany somewhere in the 1530's, still way before it happened in reality XD Great feeling, to rise from a minor 3-province country to a united German state and then conquer Europe and populate it with German vassal states :la:

The states I played in EU3 are: Austria (formed HRE), France, Castile (formed Spain), Burgundy, Brabant (formed Belgium in D&T), Lüneburg (formed Westphalia), Bavaria (formed Germany), Tuscany (formed Italy), Savoy, Taira (formed Japan) and Korea... Never Byzantium to form the Roman Empire, come to think of it...

Also, I don't know if you can do this in EU4, but in EU3 it's very easy to add music to the playlist. So I added a bunch of German and Austrian marching songs while playing as Austria/HRE and the Palatinate/Germany.. Adds another layer of awesomeness :D
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WorldWasted Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
jeez I'm making little flags for my room, and I really like the old countries so I making flags for them too. but Prussia and this flag has to be the hardest to draw
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