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Holy Roman Empire ~ Grunge Flag (1433 - 1806) by Undevicesimus Holy Roman Empire ~ Grunge Flag (1433 - 1806) by Undevicesimus
The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Imperium Romanum, German: Heiliges Römisches Reich, Dutch: Heilige Roomse Rijk, Italian: Sacro Romano Impero, Czech: Svatá říše římská, Slovene: Sveto rimsko cesarstvo, French: Saint-Empire romain germanique) was a vast conglomerate of states across Central Europe which was proclaimed at the imperial coronation of Otto I in 962. It lasted for almost a millennium, until its dissolution by Emperor Francis II in August 1806, following the defeat of Habsburg Austria by Napoleon Bonaparte. The empire was known simply as the ‘Roman Empire’ until the reign of Frederick I Barbarossa (r. 1155 – 1190), who called it ‘Holy’ to signify his self-proclaimed authority over the Papacy. A 1512 decree of the Imperial Diet formally declared ‘Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation’ to be the official name.

The Holy Roman Empire had no official national flag but rather an imperial banner associated with the person of the Holy Roman Emperor. From around 1430, the banner’s basic design was a gold field with a black double-headed eagle in the centre, sometimes adorned with haloes and the escutcheon of the reigning Emperor.

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GGY128 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
the decline in my opinion began with the dead of the staufen and the interregno before that HRE was the super power of europa for the last 340 years (960-1300)
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Or the german-roman state in Swedish not sure when we stopped using the holy part
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner 2 days ago   Artist
How do you say that in Swedish?

Sweden played a big part in the downfall of the HRE, as you probably know :)
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner 2 days ago
tysk-romerska riket

We were very lucky to have the lion from the north and Oxenstierna
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner 2 days ago   Artist
You're referring to Gustavus II Adolphus as "lion of the north", right? Definitely a brilliant man :) But Sweden basically played the game of the French in the 30 Years War, I think.
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Indeed I do he has quiet a few titles (not sure why the italians called him the golden king though)

In many ways yes they payed us to wage war and so we did but there was no delusion as to the relationship we new what they wanted and we knew what we wanted: control over the baltic and lots of money (or if you belive the offical excuse to secure the baltic to prevent a catholic invasion) and we did get our on seat at the negotions table so we were always acting out of our own interest (gaining land in the baltic) which materialized in the shape of the swedish empire... which fell appart in less than a century... at least in this world it fell

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWAP0R…
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner 2 days ago   Artist
Oh yes, the Swedish definitely had a plan when they entered the 30 Years War. But after the death of Gustavus at Lützen and the defeat at Nördlingen, it was the French that kept Sweden in the war, and by extent, gave them a place at the negotiating table for the peace of Osnabrück in 1648. And although their war ambitions had been reached and they emerged as a dominant European power after 1648, wasn't it so that they needed the alliance with France to keep their empire going after 1648?

I like Sweden, though, don't get me wrong! ^^
Would've been very interesting if they had remained/consolidated as a great power.

And you play EU4? :D It has a great painting of Gustavus in the loading screen, as you probably know ^^
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner 1 day ago
True but it was not unearned an we carried on with the war in a capacity beyond excpectation.

Odds are we woul've take more territories in the baltic maybe even norway and if things went really well prussia

Indeed and ironically I find it increadibly hard to play as sweden in it. 
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Undevicesimus Featured By Owner 21 hours ago   Artist
I haven't played Sweden in EU4, actually - the only kind-of-serious games I've done were as Portugal and Castile (for exploring & the reconquista, respectively). But for some reason I like EU3:DW & Victoria 2:HoD better. EU4 has the merit that it looks amazing (with awesome details; like that moose in Thuringia ^^), but I'm not sure I like most of the features (the whole admin-diplo-army points system, f. ex.)... And when I say it looks amazing, I mean the terrain map... That's something else I don't like: if you switch to the political map, the terrain becomes an empty, hilly colour-blob... In EU3 & Vicky 2, the political map is a blend of the terrain map and the colours of nations, which I think is way cooler ^^

Anyway, in real life, Sweden may have secured its "empire"-status for much longer if they had done the Great Northern War differently or not at all.
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Raubritter Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
To this flag I feel far more close then to the actual German tricolore
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